Hi All,
Just been watching the closed guard breaking and Jason mentions to try to always breaking from standing . I am trying to build this but find it harder to stand against heavier opponents. I think with the law of physics if you have a bigger opponent it’s going to be difficult and will require some strength.
However I’m thinking about exploring the São Paulo Pass. Has anyone tried this? Any success? Problems? Tips.
I’d be interested to hear from Jason himself .
Where and how are you struggling? I've had consistent success using a standing pass in the gi as long as I control 1 arm as I stand up with the foot on the same side of that arm. Are you in the gi or nogi, or doesn't matter?
One way I've had success against longer/taller opponents is to brace my hands in their armpits, get my body as flat and stretched out as possible, and then step a leg up between their legs. There's often enough space that I can squeeze my knee up between their guard.
lateroller, post: 64913, member: 32141
Where and how are you struggling? I've had consistent success using a standing pass in the gi as long as I control 1 arm as I stand up with the foot on the same side of that arm. Are you in the gi or nogi, or doesn't matter?One way I've had success against longer/taller opponents is to brace my hands in their armpits, get my body as flat and stretched out as possible, and then step a leg up between their legs. There's often enough space that I can squeeze my knee up between their guard.
Anup_Singh, post: 64915, member: 36852
Main issue is when I stand they are very big and heavy it’s difficult to support their weight and I off balance and fall back down to the ground . People of similar weight or lighter it’s ok
Ah. Like I mentioned, I like to have a sleeve grip before I try to stand up and break the guard. Preferably I can get cross grip control of their sleeve, step up on same side of that trapped arm, and then use my free arm/elbow to break the guard. Pretty standard issue guard break. Longer legs are more challenging though. Throw in a little hip shimmy as you're trying to push them down and you'll be surprised how effective it can be.
I think it may be easier said then done but you have to try and stand where most of their weight stays attached to the ground
I stand one leg at a time and and keep a low center of gravity
If they were connected to me in such a way that there upper body was coming up with me as I stand
I would get back down and regrip fight till I could stand without bearing all there weight
Sometimes they will open thier guard to attack with a sweep and if your prepared that makes it easy
I stand up ALMOST exclusively. The real part is maintaining your base so you have to step up and have your feet placed by their hip. Behind the hips are problems and in front of the hips are problems. Even on big guys. But you have to keep the one sleeve grip or wrist and REALLY stand up. If you’re bent over a little bit, your base shifts as well.
When you stand tall with a really tall posture and drag the sleeve or wrist with it, you pull their shoulder to the side and it twists them in a way that makes it a little harder for them to maintain and then you can drive the knee down with your free hand. I usually staple that side and then long step pass from there.
I also use the SP pass but on bigger guys I have a lower success. You have to put a lot of weight down to pin their side. Don’t forget that when you step one foot up, you can actually put some good pressure on their closed guard by turning the up leg into their thigh like you’re driving them to the side that has your knee on the ground. It kind of isolated their hip movement and puts pressure on their closed guard.
Hope that helps.
Bwiygul, post: 64945, member: 23234
I stand up ALMOST exclusively. The real part is maintaining your base so you have to step up and have your feet placed by their hip. Behind the hips are problems and in front of the hips are problems. Even on big guys. But you have to keep the one sleeve grip or wrist and REALLY stand up. If you’re bent over a little bit, your base shifts as well.When you stand tall with a really tall posture and drag the sleeve or wrist with it, you pull their shoulder to the side and it twists them in a way that makes it a little harder for them to maintain and then you can drive the knee down with your free hand. I usually staple that side and then long step pass from there.
I also use the SP pass but on bigger guys I have a lower success. You have to put a lot of weight down to pin their side. Don’t forget that when you step one foot up, you can actually put some good pressure on their closed guard by turning the up leg into their thigh like you’re driving them to the side that has your knee on the ground. It kind of isolated their hip movement and puts pressure on their closed guard.
Hope that helps.
WTFDAD, post: 64950, member: 31944
Will the up leg apply more pressure if you opponent has that side locked on top or locked under his other leg? Should I look to go to a particular side in relation to which of his legs he’s using to lock on the top of his guard?
But when you stand up, you have to go as tall as you can. When you did that, they’re hanging onto you like they’re hanging onto a heavy bag. Add in the body twist from taking the sleeve up with you and your other hand is free to drive be the knee tot he floor and staple. Just think, “posture posture posture” while you’re standing up. It’s a quick up and down typically. The stress from hanging on while you stand and then driving the knee to the floor while putting them back on the mat makes it more difficult to maintain that closed guard and then you have the pass.
Short answer is that people change their feet position so you can’t count on driving the bottom foot- sometimes it’s the top foot and so the steps are what break the closed guard. Hope that helps.