How viable is the buggy choke?
I’ve got a friend who is very lanky and flexible and has been struggling to make the buggy choke work.
He’s asked me to help but I’m pretty much the opposite in body type so it’s not something I’d planned to learn.
I’m happy to in the interests of helping him out though.
So my question is, how viable is the buggy choke?
Is it a super niche move or technically solid and worth putting some time into?
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With my body type, short and squat, not going to be part of my game but am looking forward to learning it to defend it and teach it to others.
sovann, post: 63698, member: 14430
With my body type, short and squat, not going to be part of my game but am looking forward to learning it to defend it and teach it to others.
Yeah same man, never going to be a go to for me I don't think, haha
If you had asked me a year ago I'd say its not a real move for anyone above purple belt. But with the Ruotolos and Jay Rod hitting it on high level guys I gotta say, its legit. But it definitely seems like one of the more attribute-dependent moves thats commonly seen at high levels.
So I watched some instructionals and gave it a try and I do NOT have the flexibility for this move, haha
Benny_the_jet, post: 64131, member: 22463
So I watched some instructionals and gave it a try and I do NOT have the flexibility for this move, haha
I tried it for half an hour or so with two different training partners, all of us of differing body types, and none of us could hit it. The longest-limbed of the three of us, who used to enjoy rubber guard until his knees said no, managed to almost get it without resistance so we just ruled it off. There's definitely a flexibility/age requirement regardless of the technique you use to mitigate your lack thereof!
sanenurse, post: 64152, member: 31196
I get the buggy in training, and use a buggy attempt to escape bottom side. However, I was blessed with Ben Eddy-like flexibility.
haha yep! That particular blessing seems to be a prerequisite for this one!
I don't think the buggy choke is going anywhere, especially for people with a longer and lanky stature. You will always have people who get side control with their arm over the body, and that's when the buggy is the biggest threat. You even have people setting up the buggy off of transitions now. I think there have been too many finishes lately with it from many different people to actually count it out as something that doesn't work and is a gimmick.
I don't think it should be a "go-to" move, but for those who can do it, it's great to have it in the toolbox!