Hi
I had a decent kimura grip during a roll yesterday but after a struggle my opponent managed to uppercut his arm out of it.
He admitted after he used pure strength to do it, but is there anything I could have done technically to prevent it.
I had a pretty loose half guard around the bottom of his leg which may have been the problem, but I want to make sure I'm not missing any fundamentals that would give me problems even from a more secure guard
Thanks
It is all about hip position. If your hips are on the "wrong side", as they generally are if you are trying to finish a Kimura on the far arm from bottom Half Guard, it will be your strength against his, with him having better leverage. If you can slide your hips to the outside, he has no chance.
ptbeast, post: 61330, member: 852
It is all about hip position. If your hips are on the "wrong side", as they generally are if you are trying to finish a Kimura on the far arm from bottom Half Guard, it will be your strength against his, with him having better leverage. If you can slide your hips to the outside, he has no chance.
Or recovering full guard quickly so I can hip out more effectively?
Jason has a really good video on attacking each arm here: https://grapplersguide.com/second-portal/lms/lessons/half-guard-kimura-options-inside-and-outside.22081/
What I am saying is that if, As you say, you have the right leg trapped and are attacking his left arm, you need to get to your left hip. It is a fairly difficult thing to do, but once you do, it is very difficult to defend the attack. If you remain on your right hip, it is very difficult to finish. A little easier on your back, but still a strength battle.
ptbeast, post: 61333, member: 852
Jason has a really good video on attacking each arm here: https://grapplersguide.com/second-portal/lms/lessons/half-guard-kimura-options-inside-and-outside.22081/What I am saying is that if, As you say, you have the right leg trapped and are attacking his left arm, you need to get to your left hip. It is a fairly difficult thing to do, but once you do, it is very difficult to defend the attack. If you remain on your right hip, it is very difficult to finish. A little easier on your back, but still a strength battle.
That makes a lot of sense. I think I was pretty flat, certainly not on my left hip.
Thanks very much. I'll check out those videos too
Just going to chime in and say that what @@ptbeast said is 100% correct. If you’re going to make kimura part of your half guard bottom game, you have to learn to move your hips to a position of optimal leverage. It’s not like top side kimura, where you want to be cross-side. For bottom kimura you generally want your hips on the same side as the arm you are attacking.
Also, learning to invert and learning to “let” them pass to get to your ideal position are important movements to learn, just make sure to drill enough because you don’t want a rib injury or a neck injury.
Lmiddleham, post: 61267, member: 29351
HiI had a decent kimura grip during a roll yesterday but after a struggle my opponent managed to uppercut his arm out of it.
He admitted after he used pure strength to do it, but is there anything I could have done technically to prevent it.
I had a pretty loose half guard around the bottom of his leg which may have been the problem, but I want to make sure I'm not missing any fundamentals that would give me problems even from a more secure guard
Thanks
By the way, the movements I am talking about are covered in this video from Lachlan Giles:
Youtube: mLLQBxG1ojo
Check out 5:01 to see examples of a couple of the things you can do to move your hips onto the same side as the kimura arm (although you should watch the entire video to see the full movements and breakdowns). You may already be familiar with these, but if not, they are worth learning if you are serious about using kimura from half guard bottom.
By putting your hips on the same side, you are using your legs and hip weight in addition to your arms and shoulder weight to prevent them from posturing up and freeing their arm (personally I think straightening the elbow and limp-arming out, or using your knee to free the elbow line are a lot more efficient than the uppercut your partner did, but hey, whatever works). If you maintain the half guard, then you are really just using your arm and shoulder weight to prevent them from posturing up.
Another function of this leg positioning is that you can use a leg press motion to create very strong force to separate their elbow from their ribs, which you don't get if you maintain half guard on the opposite leg.