takedowns from knees?

Do you find yourself trying to do takedowns from the knees often? tbh I don't think learning them is a good use of your time and energy (because they aren't applicable to anything but sparring in BJJ class), but obviously I'm not going to tell you what to do with your training.

@@Monkey13, My advice is just pull guard or have your partner start in guard. It’ll be a more efficient use of your time overall.

I think starting from the knees is dangerous.

Erik Paulson has an entire instructional about this. It's excellent - there are many techniques shown and some of the most invaluable drills I've ever seen are on this dvd.

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Jason_Scully, post: 62756, member: 1

@@Monkey13, My advice is just pull guard or have your partner start in guard. It’ll be a more efficient use of your time overall.

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rturo, post: 62772, member: 4352

What if my partner is 300LBs?

I never understand the starting from the knees. It is not a position you naturally get to when you go live. I will either go open guard or even turtle. If someone is new I let them take my back

JudoMike37, post: 63414, member: 13310

I never understand the starting from the knees. It is not a position you naturally get to when you go live. I will either go open guard or even turtle. If someone is new I let them take my back

I think it's not worth the time to start in that position. Start in a different position or have somebody on top and somebody on bottom. If you're talking about finding yourself there during the roll, maybe look into the dogfight position and how to wrestle up.

Monkey13, post: 62725, member: 24043

I can't find takedowns from the knees (no gi). Can you give techniques if there is no videos?

The purpose of a takedown is to bring the grappling to the floor. If they're on their knees they're already on the floor.

Facetious reply aside - it's not a realistic scenario so they will be very little content ever created about it. It's only really used in gyms with scenarios where takedowns are a risk of injury (too many people on the mats/really thin mats) or where takedowns aren't taught. And then both people will start on knees to keep it "fair" as it would be from standing. It's a complete waste of time and I will always just concede bottom position and start working from there.

Pull guard and practice your guard retention, sweeps and guard entries.

Knee wrestling is dumb but if I somehow end up there then I go for a sort of knee tap takedown. Can follow it up with several submissions. But its so rare to end up in that position in a roll that you're better off pulling guard or standing up completely

Monkey13, post: 62725, member: 24043

I can't find takedowns from the knees (no gi). Can you give techniques if there is no videos?

I know some schools have people start on thier knees for sparring, as it’s a neutral position and less chance of Injury then when you start in your knees

Something you could try is , ask your partner if you can start at a chosen position and they can chose the next round
This way you. It’s can work on and address differwnt needs when rolling, as opposed to just trying to get the tap

Good luck :)

I think most schools train from the knees because of space constraints. Start from standing has many advantages that absolutely need to be addressed in bjj - ie., how to fall safely. You are more likely to trip than get in a fight, so learning to fall extends to your normal life too!

JRT6, post: 62767, member: 2970

I think starting from the knees is dangerous.

ck7654, post: 63828, member: 12490

I used to start from the knees but one training partner blew out my meniscus. Starting from the butt with open/butterfly guard is much safer. Starting from standing is more realistic.

Monkey13, post: 62725, member: 24043

I can't find takedowns from the knees (no gi). Can you give techniques if there is no videos?

Not a throw! A takedown…

crossover, post: 63956, member: 10990

What if you start standing, but who gets a dominant grip/tieup gets to practise a takedown? Like agree that okay, you got a dominant tieup…not break it, and let the winner do a takedown and continue your roll after the takedown…

Not a throw! A takedown…

AnthonyRenna, post: 64056, member: 36711

That sounds like an excellent idea, fight for position then slow down to train a rep then start back from the new position. I have an older partner I train with one of the days I train that I am going to suggest this to as he is adverse to stand up game for fear of getting slammed

When you know that you have the takedown agaist a resistant opponent, it should be easy to accept the takedown. (Ofcourse in real roll you’d never give a dominant grip to your opponent:-)

If my partner wants me to start from my knees, Ill pull bottom turtle or sit guard.

Crowded mats and or inexperienced players was in my mind the only reason to start on your knees.